If you have CLL leukemia, you know it can be hard to take your mind off it. The thing that really helps me forget about Leuk for awhile is m family.

Today I’m talking with my grandson, Josh. Please forgive the sound quality, we only had one mic.

Anyway, this podcast series is about how I have a well-lived life even though I have leukemia. And my grandchildren help me do just that.

Enjoy.